Podcast w/ Alison Gopnik of Berkeley Cognitive Development and Learning Lab

In this podcast, Ezra Klein interviews Alison Gopnik, a professor of psychology and philosophy at the University of California, Berkeley, where she runs the Cognitive Development and Learning Lab. In this conversation, Gopnik and Klein discuss the way children think, the cognitive reasons social change so often starts with the young, and the power of play. The podcasts begs the question: instead of asking what children can learn from us, perhaps we need to reverse the question: What can we learn from them? Well worth a listen.

Find the podcast here on Apple or here on Spotify.

And for some levity:

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I 💯hung up on my friend this week in an effort to get my toddler to be quieter...

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